{"id":1884,"date":"2008-12-19T10:56:14","date_gmt":"2008-12-19T18:56:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.stwallskull.com\/blog\/?p=1884"},"modified":"2008-12-19T10:56:14","modified_gmt":"2008-12-19T18:56:14","slug":"interesting-links-siegel-and-schuster-style-raw-deals-updated-by-time-warner-for-2008-december-19th-2008","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.stwallskull.com\/blog\/2008\/12\/19\/interesting-links-siegel-and-schuster-style-raw-deals-updated-by-time-warner-for-2008-december-19th-2008\/","title":{"rendered":"INTERESTING LINKS: Siegel and Schuster-Style Raw Deals, Updated by Time-Warner for 2008 :December 19th, 2008"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stwallskull.com\/blog\/?cat=7\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/stwallskull.com\/blog\/images\/headers\/interestinglinks.jpg\" alt=\"STWALLSKULL'S INTERESTING LINKS\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fleen.com\/archives\/2008\/12\/17\/spike-speaks\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/stwallskull.com\/blog\/images\/interestinglinks\/spike.gif\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Looking over the Time-Warner owned Zuda contract, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.templaraz.com\/\">cartoonist Spike of the webcomic series Templar, Arizona<\/a> tellingly <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fleen.com\/archives\/2008\/12\/17\/spike-speaks\/\">concludes that she makes more money selling 100 of her self-published books than Time-Warner&#8217;s Zuda creators make selling 10,000 books<\/a>. It is also worth noting in bold <strong>that she also keeps all of the rights to her work<\/strong>, which in my view is a much more important distinction. Very few comics sell more than 10,000 copies any more. Click on the image above from Spike&#8217;s Templar, Arizona&#8230; which appears to be a metaphorical image of a Zuda comics creator getting throttled by Time-Warner lawyers&#8230; to go to the article the quote comes from on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fleen.com\/archives\/2008\/12\/17\/spike-speaks\/\">fleen.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&#8220;&#8230;with a 1% cover price share and assuming the books are equal in cost, a Zuda book would have to sell 10,000 copies to make the creator what I would selling 100 copies of Templar? 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